Is there anyone who has experience with toys like the PES electro stimulation system? I'd love to try it, but I'm still a bit nervous about it.
Doesn't sound too bad if you can get a unit and a plug for 40 bucks. Like most I started with a cheap TENS unit and after using it for awhile and buying a number of other units I finally graduated to the ET312, the Cadilac of estim boxes. Also finally got a large anal plug that provided the most insanely wild orgasms I've ever had. Enjoy.
Built the davey box for less than twenty bucks. Best twenty I ever blew!
should i use a lotion on my cock before i use the tens unit
I got the PES unit when it first came out 15 or so years ago. I never had an HFO with it. It just wasn't my thing. Its more of a pain machine for me. A few years I bought a tens unit and I had great times with it, but no HFO. But with the tens unit I was hooked. I knew that I liked the sensations. So after some research on Smartstim, I built my own stereostim machine and downloaded some routines. I had an HFO on the second try. I used that machine successfully for a year or two until I bought the queen of the fleet, The 312b. I'm never looking back now!
I have HFO's every time now. Its a learning thing too!
There are bi-polar anal/vaginal electrodes for sale online at many vendors for about $45, and on upward to over $100. Any one will work with any TENS powerbox, although you may need an adapter to get the connection.
One way to get a quality TENS unit is by prescription from your doctor. I was able to obtain a Empi TENS Select due to back pain as a result of a motorcycle accident. Not that I'm suggesting you get in a motorcycle accident... no fun! The unit I have can provide 0-60 mA at 2-150 pulse per second. I current use estim pads but would like to try a catheter and anal insert at some point.
I used to have a TENS but bought an EROStek 232 which is far better.
By the way, has anyone ever heard of an estim enema nozzle?
Hi Sky bear,
What are the magical configurations for stimulation leading to activation of neuron that initiate the ejaculatory reflex?
With say the ET312 its possible to activate the anal sphincter muscles to cause the Aneros stroke/palpate the prostate.
Plus an entirely different train of stimuli can flow between say a urethral electrode and one of the prostate electrodes. Is this effective, i.e. generate pleasurable stimuli, a stronger erection, and ejaculation?
Clearly a hot spot is the perineum. Perhaps a PES urethral amplifier and electrode attached to a collar contacting the perineum might stimulate the hot spot.
Then to manual manipulation of the shaft generates ejaculation, so the PES glans corona electrode, current passing down penile shaft to a collar ring at base of shaft is another physiologically valid combination.
Alternatively a cock ring around the scrotum and shaft could be the end point for current say from the glans. Scrotal electrodes too for that matter.
What in your experience are the magical electrode pairs? What locations have I missed? for that matter favorite electrodes: materials, etc.
Have you and/or others published stimulation patterns that works well, and is there a library of such?
Lastly, what's your favorite stimulator. The ET-312 is well spoken for, al beit expensive.
I'm planning on investing in a system and your knowledge would be highly appreciated. For sure others would welcome insights.
Is it possible to communicate by email. MIne is email@example.com Thanks in advance for your insight. Unfortunately I can not PM because I've not got enough points which is frustrating.
I just lucked into a deal on Craigslist and bought a TENS - my first. To use for my back as well as play. He had 6 of them so I bought all 6 for almost nothing. I am still reading and trying to figure it all out. Anybody who has any ideas, or can give me some advice - get in touch. Two of them besides mine are claimed, but I think I may list two of them on e bay. Not sure yet. They are nice little units in nice little cases. What a steal!
Erostek, Tens, DIY stereo amp and more electrodes than you can imagine.
My favorite anal electrode is the modified Aneros http://www.kinky-engineering.info/E-stim-aneros.htm
Girl Friend likes the TENS on her nipples and the Erostek in her pussy and on the clit...
EROSTEK all the way;-)
I have been using an estim series 1 box for a couple of years but recently built my own Davey box.....Wowwww Much better
I recently purchased the Erostek 232 package and find it very good., after some experimenting was able to reach HFO wonderful. System has plenty of power and a nice selection of wave forms.
The Electrastim EM140 power box is excellent, very powerful, good programs that even after owning one for quite a while, I'm still discovering interesting variants. Maplin (UK electronics chain) sells a cheap (£40) TENS unit which is very powerful (for a TENS) and has some interesting programmes, both sensual and masochistic.
My home made bi-polar butt plug feels great. Depending on the waveform supplied, I can get the muscles in my ass to twitch causing the butt plug to move in and out. Feels like I am being fucked by a ghost
Being a retired electronic engineer, I build my own E-Stim power box and associated electrodes. It is considerable cheaper this way. I have compared my boxes with ET312B and find the sensations they produce are remarkably similar with the same end result. I am always on the lookout for new ideas and suggestions.
I experimented with self made devices, however, I eventually purchased an ET312.
Very convenient, real good feeling stimulation, reliable, quick to setup. Helps concentrate on the feelings, not on the equipment!
Great for smooth pleasureable stimulation, or, if you are in the mood, a bit more heavy. There is a pulse mode that gives three short pulses, then a very short pause, again three short pulses, and slowly increasing. Somehow very erotic and hard at the same time. Good to accompany torture or whipping fantasies, for self stimulation. Also great to watch a partner undergoing this, especially when restrained.
If you want to experiment more, with the three phase and audio inputs, many more sensations can be achieved.
This is a very powerful device, and gives a lot of variety. Highly recommended.
To me, estim is only really good when accompanied by fantasy, foreplay, all you need for normal sex to be enjoyable as well. As I enjoy kinky fantasies and play, estim suits me very well.
I'm starting to look at e-stim toys and wonder what folks might have to say about the ErosTek ET232 and the PES units and their suitability as a starting point. Thanks for any suggestions.
I have a Rimba machine. Just about everywhere I look everybody is talking about tens units. I would love to get an inexpensive, quality butt plug for my machine. Any help?
@dacflyer: Older gel pads don't stick as well, and sting. You need to get new ones, wet the old ones, or find some other way to rehabilitate them. Conductive rubber can make one of the best P-trodes -- it doesn't need a conductive gel, has a softer feel and can be attached in various ways.
I love a uni-polar P-trode, matched with a gel pad on the perineum above where the prostate is below. Wonderful feeling at both places; guaranteed orgasm at some point when using an ET-312, using only one channel.
When you're stimming, the nervous impulse to urinate seems to be suppressed. But eventually, the bladder will overflow, and uncontrolled urination takes place.
Used several DIY stim boxs for years. Even now that I have the ET-312 I like some stim files better on the DIY box.
I must agree with the Erostek 312b. I have had TENS and PES but the ERostek is the most amazing. Be safe, happy 2012
I use a PES box and have used a TENS unit in the past.
I would suggest going for the TENS unit to any new users. The rhythmic cycles that you can get on there are unlike anything you've ever experienced and other cheaper boxes just cannot produce the same type of pleasure.
Yes it costs $300-$400, but it's well worth it, and much better than spending $100-$200 on something you won't like and will never use again.
OH yea, that's what it is for.... lower, FRONT Pain. That agony of being horny..... :-X
Once again thanks for the info. I think I am going to check out the TENS unit you linked to. If it doesn't work out, I'm only out $30 bucks. But still have something to try and help this lower back pain.
Here is a company I have used many times.
I had thought about sending you mine but I have a local couple that would like for me to help them get started with E-stim... They may feel better about using a TENS unit than my DIY box. Dr. feelgood rides again Laissez les bon temps rouler
A few years ago I got the opportunity to "borrow" a PES box and devices for a few weeks. The electro butt plug was totally mind-blowing! The cockrings were less successful though.
Let me tell you about the butt plug. After a good enema session cleanout (which is fun all by itself), I started working olive oil (their recommended lubricant) into my ass. When everything was good and slippery, I slowly inserted the plug inside me. It was a larger plug, & took 5-10 minutes to slowly insert it. When it was in, it was very comfortable and filled me up very well. My penis was now rock hard and throbbing in anticipation of the estim.
I had read that the best position for anal estim and masturbation was kneeling, and sitting up with my butt above my feet. The plug was kinda suspended in mid-air, with only my sphincter holding it in, but it was large enough that gravity wouldn't pull it out when I relaxed my sphincter.
I turned to powerbox on, and slowly raised the level until i felt a slight tingling. It was irritating for a few seconds, then my body adjusted to the sensation & it became pleasurable. I turned the power up a little more and felt my ass constrict which pulled the plug deeper into my ass against my prostate. Wow! what a feeling. Then the powerbox cycled off, and my ass relaxed, allowing gravity to pull the plug down again.
Adjusting the frequency control, I could vary how often the box would cycle on and off, making the plug move in and out of my ass. Incredible! Too high a frequency wouldn't work for me, it would just sit there, but speeds up to about 2x a second would make that plug work in and out my ass and massage my prostate. At higher power levels I could feel the current passing through my prostate/ass.
Although I never came by using the machine only, it made for an incredible orgasm while masturbating by hand.
I started estim by getting a zeus 6 channel digital power box, but i decided to upgrade to an et 312; and an upgrade it was!. so many possibilities with the 312, penis bands, catheter and plug.
Has anyone ever seen,heard of, know anything about or possibly know of a website regarding an older(circa late 70's early solid state) 'ACUFLEX' T.E.N.S. unit? It is battery operated, using 2 nine volt and 8 c batteries. I acquired it last weekend and it needs some minor repair, which I am certified and capable of doing. It has absolutely no model number on it, or evidence of it being removed. There is a service tag inside from a company in the local area that has not been in business since the early 80's, dead end there, I googled it every which way using different sear engines and parameters and only came up with references to excersize equipment and the lead that told me the service company was no longer in existence.
I am looking specifically for tech specs such as schematic diagram/repair manual and /or operators manual, links to organizations or individuals who do. The repairs are quite simple, just re-soldering the wires from the battery power supply board to the main board in the proper sequence so as not to miss wire it. Any useful leads or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.