Is there anyone who has experience with toys like the PES electro stimulation system? I'd love to try it, but I'm still a bit nervous about it.
My husband and I have a lot invested in e-stim equipment and all I can say is they all have different sensations and what you like is all personal preference. We have the ET312B, HottBoxx, two Folsom boxes and one other whose name escapes me at the moment. The ET132B has the most varied sensations.
If I could only have one, it would be the ET312B.
I purchased about 3 years ago a Zeus Six (really only two) channel e-stim power box. I have never really been able to use it successfully. The only way that it will work on me is with the power turned up most of the way with the pulse quite a way up. I have two anal toys that I use with it, the smaller of the Electrosex torpedo plug, and the electro plug. All that I can get is pain from these devices. The unit does nothing for me at the lesser settings. Both settings need to be almost at the extreme high position to get anything out of the power box.
My question is will the Erostech E312B or a P.E.S. device give me the sensations that I'm looking to receive; i.e. pleasure, not pain, or does what I explained above, be what I'll receive, no matter what.
I would certainly like to try estim again; however, I don't want to spend five or six hundreds of dollars again and have a totally useless device.
Your answers will be appreciated.
I have a cheaper (under $50) tens unit, that works fine for my needs at this point. I can see why you might want to graduate to something better in the future, but for starting out, I find that this unit works great. It has 4 leads and even a acupuncture wand (although I have not had much success with that) I had to experiment with placement and lubrication to start with, but once you find your sweet spot, wow, what an experience. Good luck and happy stimming.
I use a P.E.S. box. I do lots of HFO's with it (P.E.S. prostate anal stimulator and cock ring) and also lots of ghost fuckings (P.E.S., Zeus or Rimba plugs.) For me, it has enough power, if it had more power, I would be tempted to turn it up higher.
One way I use it is a prostate anal stimulator is up my asshole, ring on the head of my cock, and standing at the washbowl counter. I spread my legs some so I put a little strain on my groin, then I lean forward with my balls on the counter pressing against the vanity edge, so the edge is pressing up against the root of my very hard dick.
Then, I lean down some, so my balls are pressed against the counter a bit. I then play with my hard tits, tickling and pinching my tits, and sometimes with large binder clips on my tits.
I slowly crank up the P.E.S. box and I have it marked where HFO occurs. HFO is "not" at max.
As I get closer to cuming, my dick gets a little blue and then a ting of purple because I have such an intense hardon. It's very very very hot to watch my dick, and also me in the mirror. I can see all of the action, and with the wall mirror behind me, I can see the electrical wire connected to the prostate stimulator up into my ass!
Then, I cum, I can feel it building up and up with some more tingling sensations in the base of my cock, often my whole body shakes when I cum, it is so intense. Then, sometimes, I back off on the P.E.S. box and let my cock and asshole stim a bit, I have such a horny asshole all of the time.
Sometimes I make sure my bladder is full, I think this adds to the pressure/intensity. Also, when doing this, sometimes I pee into a glass some, I think this helps the electrical conductivity from the head of my dick down into my prostate. Just be sure to pee into a glass and not down the drain where you might get some kind of a ground connection with the drain pipe and maybe a shock. Also, be careful everything is below the waist. Sometimes, if I'm really hot, I drink my pee for the taboo feeling. I use my P,E.S box on the mains with the P.E.S. supplied and safe transformer on a surge suppressor. This gives more output than with just the battery. It is quite noticeable at the higher power settings.
Sometimes I also do this when I need a BM, and I also have a full bladder. For those sessions I sit on the toilet lid with a plastic bag on a towel on the toilet lid in case some mess comes out of my butt, which really doesn't seem to happen too often. Having the P.E.S. box going on a prostate stimulator up my asshole, ring on my cock, and a full bladder and the need for a BM is very very hot and with a HFO. There are some pretty good sensations bearing down for a BM with a full bladder and the P.E.S box pulsing your prostate and the head of your dick while doing some good tit action.
I know what I'm doing tonight before bed! LOL! I'm getting hard now just writing this up.
I have a Pathway STM-10 that was prescribed by my Colo-rectal specialist. I was taught how to use it by my pelvic floor physical therapist who also did anal biofeedback and anal dilation during my appointments.
My only disappointment with the STM-10 is that the probe is meant to stimulate the anal region and not the rectum so it is fairly small (but still enjoyable). I has intensity control from 1 - 40 and session control settings as well, continuous or interrupted.
I am new to this and have never tried it. I see prices upwards of $200.00 in sex shop adds for e-stim controllers. Then I read about getting tens units much cheaper that will provide pleasure as well. A local discount store has an Emron electroTHERAPY unit for less than $40.00. It only has 3 settings on it though and I wondered if anyone has tried this unit before.
Doesn't sound too bad if you can get a unit and a plug for 40 bucks. Like most I started with a cheap TENS unit and after using it for awhile and buying a number of other units I finally graduated to the ET312, the Cadilac of estim boxes. Also finally got a large anal plug that provided the most insanely wild orgasms I've ever had. Enjoy.
Built the davey box for less than twenty bucks. Best twenty I ever blew!
should i use a lotion on my cock before i use the tens unit
I got the PES unit when it first came out 15 or so years ago. I never had an HFO with it. It just wasn't my thing. Its more of a pain machine for me. A few years I bought a tens unit and I had great times with it, but no HFO. But with the tens unit I was hooked. I knew that I liked the sensations. So after some research on Smartstim, I built my own stereostim machine and downloaded some routines. I had an HFO on the second try. I used that machine successfully for a year or two until I bought the queen of the fleet, The 312b. I'm never looking back now!
I have HFO's every time now. Its a learning thing too!
There are bi-polar anal/vaginal electrodes for sale online at many vendors for about $45, and on upward to over $100. Any one will work with any TENS powerbox, although you may need an adapter to get the connection.
One way to get a quality TENS unit is by prescription from your doctor. I was able to obtain a Empi TENS Select due to back pain as a result of a motorcycle accident. Not that I'm suggesting you get in a motorcycle accident... no fun! The unit I have can provide 0-60 mA at 2-150 pulse per second. I current use estim pads but would like to try a catheter and anal insert at some point.
I used to have a TENS but bought an EROStek 232 which is far better.
By the way, has anyone ever heard of an estim enema nozzle?
Hi Sky bear,
What are the magical configurations for stimulation leading to activation of neuron that initiate the ejaculatory reflex?
With say the ET312 its possible to activate the anal sphincter muscles to cause the Aneros stroke/palpate the prostate.
Plus an entirely different train of stimuli can flow between say a urethral electrode and one of the prostate electrodes. Is this effective, i.e. generate pleasurable stimuli, a stronger erection, and ejaculation?
Clearly a hot spot is the perineum. Perhaps a PES urethral amplifier and electrode attached to a collar contacting the perineum might stimulate the hot spot.
Then to manual manipulation of the shaft generates ejaculation, so the PES glans corona electrode, current passing down penile shaft to a collar ring at base of shaft is another physiologically valid combination.
Alternatively a cock ring around the scrotum and shaft could be the end point for current say from the glans. Scrotal electrodes too for that matter.
What in your experience are the magical electrode pairs? What locations have I missed? for that matter favorite electrodes: materials, etc.
Have you and/or others published stimulation patterns that works well, and is there a library of such?
Lastly, what's your favorite stimulator. The ET-312 is well spoken for, al beit expensive.
I'm planning on investing in a system and your knowledge would be highly appreciated. For sure others would welcome insights.
Is it possible to communicate by email. MIne is email@example.com Thanks in advance for your insight. Unfortunately I can not PM because I've not got enough points which is frustrating.
I just lucked into a deal on Craigslist and bought a TENS - my first. To use for my back as well as play. He had 6 of them so I bought all 6 for almost nothing. I am still reading and trying to figure it all out. Anybody who has any ideas, or can give me some advice - get in touch. Two of them besides mine are claimed, but I think I may list two of them on e bay. Not sure yet. They are nice little units in nice little cases. What a steal!
Erostek, Tens, DIY stereo amp and more electrodes than you can imagine.
My favorite anal electrode is the modified Aneros http://www.kinky-engineering.info/E-stim-aneros.htm
Girl Friend likes the TENS on her nipples and the Erostek in her pussy and on the clit...
EROSTEK all the way;-)
I have been using an estim series 1 box for a couple of years but recently built my own Davey box.....Wowwww Much better
I recently purchased the Erostek 232 package and find it very good., after some experimenting was able to reach HFO wonderful. System has plenty of power and a nice selection of wave forms.
The Electrastim EM140 power box is excellent, very powerful, good programs that even after owning one for quite a while, I'm still discovering interesting variants. Maplin (UK electronics chain) sells a cheap (£40) TENS unit which is very powerful (for a TENS) and has some interesting programmes, both sensual and masochistic.
My home made bi-polar butt plug feels great. Depending on the waveform supplied, I can get the muscles in my ass to twitch causing the butt plug to move in and out. Feels like I am being fucked by a ghost
Being a retired electronic engineer, I build my own E-Stim power box and associated electrodes. It is considerable cheaper this way. I have compared my boxes with ET312B and find the sensations they produce are remarkably similar with the same end result. I am always on the lookout for new ideas and suggestions.
I experimented with self made devices, however, I eventually purchased an ET312.
Very convenient, real good feeling stimulation, reliable, quick to setup. Helps concentrate on the feelings, not on the equipment!
Great for smooth pleasureable stimulation, or, if you are in the mood, a bit more heavy. There is a pulse mode that gives three short pulses, then a very short pause, again three short pulses, and slowly increasing. Somehow very erotic and hard at the same time. Good to accompany torture or whipping fantasies, for self stimulation. Also great to watch a partner undergoing this, especially when restrained.
If you want to experiment more, with the three phase and audio inputs, many more sensations can be achieved.
This is a very powerful device, and gives a lot of variety. Highly recommended.
To me, estim is only really good when accompanied by fantasy, foreplay, all you need for normal sex to be enjoyable as well. As I enjoy kinky fantasies and play, estim suits me very well.
I'm starting to look at e-stim toys and wonder what folks might have to say about the ErosTek ET232 and the PES units and their suitability as a starting point. Thanks for any suggestions.
I have a Rimba machine. Just about everywhere I look everybody is talking about tens units. I would love to get an inexpensive, quality butt plug for my machine. Any help?
@dacflyer: Older gel pads don't stick as well, and sting. You need to get new ones, wet the old ones, or find some other way to rehabilitate them. Conductive rubber can make one of the best P-trodes -- it doesn't need a conductive gel, has a softer feel and can be attached in various ways.
I love a uni-polar P-trode, matched with a gel pad on the perineum above where the prostate is below. Wonderful feeling at both places; guaranteed orgasm at some point when using an ET-312, using only one channel.
When you're stimming, the nervous impulse to urinate seems to be suppressed. But eventually, the bladder will overflow, and uncontrolled urination takes place.
Used several DIY stim boxs for years. Even now that I have the ET-312 I like some stim files better on the DIY box.
I must agree with the Erostek 312b. I have had TENS and PES but the ERostek is the most amazing. Be safe, happy 2012
I use a PES box and have used a TENS unit in the past.
I would suggest going for the TENS unit to any new users. The rhythmic cycles that you can get on there are unlike anything you've ever experienced and other cheaper boxes just cannot produce the same type of pleasure.
Yes it costs $300-$400, but it's well worth it, and much better than spending $100-$200 on something you won't like and will never use again.
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